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    kev2021
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    Hi,

    does anyone know how to go about putting a wired device onto guest Wi-Fi network?

    guest Wi-Fi is different in range to main network and Wi-Fi so I doubt I can simply plug it into the switch with a static ip in guest Wi-Fi range so do I need to configure the port to a blank and if so anyone know how to. I have a hp 1810 or 1820 switch all in default settings pretty much with some ports setup as a truck for nas box.

    thanks

    kevin

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    Wireless Bridge should do the job – maybe better models, just used this as an example

    Wireless Bridge

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    #16817
    kev2021
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    Thanks, I thought might of been able to do by setting a port to a diff vlan and put on same ip range.

    kev

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    ASUS routers and others do not support the adding/seperation of differing VLAN ID’s on the LAN ports – each SSID is given its own VLAN ID or Interface just for internal routing purposes I believe.

     

    But OpenWrt, does support this Port based VLAN  separation usage and is great for that sort of stuff.

    Have a read of this if you are feeling brave as does require you manually editing the ebtables

    https://wu.renjie.im/blog/network/ax88u-vlan/

     

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    On AVM routers you can define LAN-port4 to act as Guest like Guest-WLAN.
    So not all doesn’t support it, some do.

    But I think with Merlin firmware on Asus-routers it should be possible too, jump to SNB-forum for further infos or ask there.

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    #16823
    kev2021
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    Thanks,  thought maybe could do on my hp switch.

     

    thanks

     

    kev

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    Basically, The Guest Network is not IP-based, it’s interface/bridge based – Each Guest network runs on its own separate interface.

    FYI – Some routers use VLANs to isolate Guest Networks. Asuswrt does not, it relies on ebtables to isolate them.

    ‘Copyright RMerlin’

     

    Interesting read if you get bored and just confirms what I have said already (thank goodness)

    https://www.snbforums.com/threads/can-you-add-non-wifi-clients-to-the-guest-network.60636/

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    To isolate it seems to be possible and allow only internet-connection as Martineau mentioned, but then its not exactly Guest-WLAN as guests may talk to each other too.
    So the answer might be dependent on your needs.

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    Does the HP switch have some form of wireless AP capability ?

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    kev2021
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    Hi all,

    thanks, basically all my iot devices are on guest Wi-Fi. I am considering getting a raspberry pi and using home assistant on it to be able to manage them all from 1 screen/app as at present I have several apps to manage/control them as different makes. I’ve read raspberry pi has Wi-Fi but it is recommended to hard wire it.

    my hp switch has no wireless abilities but can do Volans, trunks etc so hence why I thought setup 1 port as vlan for guest Wi-Fi and just assign static ip. But seems that won’t work so seems only was is another router/ap setup for guest Wi-Fi and hard hire into that router/ap I presume?

    will check out link thanks

     

    kev

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    Unfortunately so, or change ASUS router to something more interesting (Netgear R7000) and flash with DD-WRT or Tomato to support VLAN separation via LAN Ports ?

    NETGEAR Nighthawk Smart Wifi Router (R7000) on Ebay are around £90

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    #16833
    kev2021
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    HI,

     

    Thanks, will see what I can find, having spent over £200 on the rt-ax86, doesn’t seem worth replacing it, even though Something still don’t work, mainly sonos which i’ve virtually given up with now, other stuff seems ok so will stick with existing router and see if can get a AP to connect to guest wifi or i might just try the raspberry PI on WIFI and see just how bad it is.

    Thanks

    Kev

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