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    EvylRat
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    Why? Why?

    Invested in A Fritzbox 7360 back in the day and loved it.  Hooked up my analogue phone line to it and use call blocking and answerphone.  Connected was my physical land line and a DECT Fon C5.

    I’ve since updated to a 7490, which is still pretty dated.  So I rushed and purchased a 7530.  VOIP only.  I wish to implement the Mesh facility, powerline adapters are not the best or reliable.

    Options –
    1. Get a VOIP service connected to the 7530.
    2. Assign the old 7360 to handle incoming calls / blocking / answer machine (so I can use the 7490 as Mesh, 7360 is NOT Mesh compatible though I use as wireless client at the moment).

    Going to get my free SIPGATE number for the 7530 just to test VOIP anyway, but before I try and figure out option 2 (reuse ancient 7360 for telephony) are there better options / advice anyone can give?

    Thanks in advance!

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    How important is using VOIP for yourself ?

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

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    Previous experience with VOIP at work was… flaky.  But it’s only for incoming call from Family.  We’ll still have a physical line and mobiles for emergency.

    I think I need to get the free VOIP account and see if there’s any noticeable difference in quality.  There shouldn’t be any difference usage wise as the Fritzbox lets us use the Analogue phone as a VOIP phone?

    I guess it might work better on the FON app for smartphones too.

     

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    It would be, if money is no object, (my glass is always half full) I would just purchase the 7530AX and that  will handle Analogue / answer phone etc. and as wifi 6, you may not need to wifi mesh etc ? (only a guess) ?

    then if u get bored, use the standard 7530 for VOIP for testing and sell what you don’t need

     

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

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    Still running vintage tech in this house, nothing that can utilise Wifi 6.
    I just didn’t read the specs on the 7530 before bidding on the auction site.
    VOIP all setup on the 7490, just got to wait for the line to start working (perhaps I did something wrong…)

    Once successful, and there is no difference in quality – port number.  Once done, move to the 7530.  That alone might suffice for the wifi, but I’m wondering if using the 7490 Mesh instead of power plug in one corner of house will work ok (work PC only) and also serve as extending wifi into the garden.

    Thanks for advice!

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    7490 Mesh is an option, depends how thick those walls are,

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

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    7530AX doesnt have analog POTS input too, so you will have to use 7490 to handle phone line which even works when DSL is down.

    And you can mesh it with master modemrouter 7530(ax) with no problems.

    So I think this would be the best way to use your equipment.

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    Well spotted Grisu, that’s how I ended up with the 7530 in the 1st place!
    Forgot to consider – 7490 mesh master / incoming calls – 7530 as mesh slave.

    VOIP just got activated; quick test can’t tell the difference so might stick with VOIP over BT.

    BT Engineer moved our Master Socket right next to the front door.  Wifi in the house isn’t bad, but thought it could be better.

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    For those looking at VOIP there’s a little detail that may be a deal breaker when it comes to porting a phone number – “The port will terminate the phone line and associated services like broadband”.  The VOIP service was simple to setup and the quality has no issues.  But having one line to service my phone and internet means porting the number to VOIP would break it.  Something to consider if planning VOIP.

    So since I cannot afford a Fritzbox router with BT Analogue in, I will continue with the 7490 as the Master and the 7530 (Zen edition) will be the Slave, though I could not get them behaving as such – that’s a new post in the near future.

    Thanks all for your advice

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    Sorry my english is too poor to understand your issue.

    But I am quite sure it could be solved with your 7530ax and (good old) 7490 with analog input.

    If you can give us a detailed picture how exactly you cabled your network (all boxes, plugs, adapters, cables, phone, wall socket just everyting) it my be more clear to me whats your problem.

    As I understand your phone number is ported now and signal goes through internet using VoIP, so should even be much easier than with POTS.

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    Sorry if I was confusing!  I have a BT line to the house.  Our telephone number (and associated internet account) is on that line.

    If you port a BT number to a VOIP service, all services associated with that line are deactivated; I would lose internet and phone.
    To keep my number to use on VOIP I must get a 2nd phone line, THEN port the ORIGINAL number to VOIP, so I don’t lose internet.  I have not ported number, and so currently have 2 numbers in use on the 7490 – analogue (original number) and VOIP.

    In my effort to save money, I’ve purchased a router (7530 – internet and VOIP) that can’t be utilised as a direct replacement to the 7490 (which has the incoming BT line for phone and internet).

    Original plan was just to update hardware (7490), and perhaps utilise that previous hardware (7490) as a Mesh repeater.   Since nothing has failed with the original hardware, I can use the 7530 as the repeater (via wifi or powerline, I don’t have lan cable yet).

    I had intended to use the 7530 for internet only, and perhaps the 7490/7360 for handling analogue phone line as a workaround, but I might as well leave the 7490 in place as master, 7530 as a repeater, and my 7360 as spare whatever.

    If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it!

     

     

     

     

     

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    Dont understand why you would loose phone number and internet if you port to a different provider, thats the sense of porting to keep old phone number.

    If it is a help to you: You can split signal or to be more clearly cable and connect internet (DSL) to newer 7530 and phone signal to old 7490.

    All you need are propper cables as POTS analog input for 7490 are not the middle 2 pins (which are used for DSL) but the next pair of pins.

    The other VoIP-phone number will stay configured on DSL-router

    But you can mesh with ‘phone mesh’ so you could connect both phones to 7490 (used as mesh client) FON1 for POTS and FON2 for VoIP line. POTS directly to 7490 and VoIP ‘kind of meshed’ to 7490.

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    Had to read the fine print to see about losing the phone line.  Makes no sense, as you say that’s the whole point.
    “Please note: In the case of landline numbers, when you port your number to us your line will cease on the day of the transfer. If that line also had a broadband service on it, it will also cease (and, to rub salt into the wound, you may be still liable for the remainder of the contract). Plan carefully if this is your only internet connection. You may need to consider installing a new (line and) broadband service before porting your desired number. At the moment BT does not allow you to have purely broadband internet without renting at least one telephone line too.”

    I’d seen on this forums about splitting the cable neatly.  Thanks for all the advice.

     

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