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  • #24683
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    It seems with this the main difference is that INP-REIN value. When I plug in the Asus, it gets a value of 1 on downstream and syncs lower. This does not happen on the Sky router.

    I wonder why it is the Asus gets the INP-REIN value and other routers don’t?

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    Does the Sky hub have an INP-REIN  field setting ? I am surprised .

    But yes, that is interesting and I wonder if INP-REIN value can be adjusted manually via CMD line (for testing purposes). I will chat with ASUS and see if they can advise

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    #24688
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    Not by default, i’ve had to enlist assistance via both Sky and Openreach who were here yesterday to dig out more information.  There was another issue on my line by which even the Sky router wasn’t 100% happy that they needed to resolve at the cabinet. But the lower sync issue with the Asus remained afterwards which the sky router does not exhibit, they were able to dig out some more stats from the openreach end for when that was plugged in.

     

    thanks for assistance on this. It would be nice to get this back working as it used to, as there seem to be little to no other options for wifi 6 modem routers. All other routers seem to require an external modem.

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    There was another issue on my line by which even the Sky router wasn’t 100% happy that they needed to resolve at the cabinet.

    What was issue on you line ?

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    #24690
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    It was to do with some leftover config when my line moved from standard FTTC to a sogea line some time back. They didn’t disconnect the ‘e side‘ portion that was now not necessary, the cabinet wasn’t handling it properly or something so they disconnected it.  Didn’t help this particular issue though

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    • The Skipper

    Interesting, did you happen to notice if they (Openreach) performed a reset on the DLM ?

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    They did yes, as I can see the speed is lower and snr is higher than where it settles at once dlm has done it’s thing. Had the sky router plugged in initially and swapped it over to the asus in order to leave it alone for dlm to complete. On the swapover it did the same thing (quite a bit lower synch) so just waiting to see where dlm settles now when left alone a few days, although i’m expecting it to be the same as the figures are the same as the last time they did a dlm reset for me.  Will see in a few days though but seems the asus just isn’t particularly happy (maybe because of it being sogea, as it was happy beforehand).

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    Great news the reset on the DLM occurred, hopefully a few days as you say and we will know how good synch rate is

     

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    #24729
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    Are there any guidelines for how many FEC/CRC/ES/SES errors are ‘ok’ and don’t bother the DLM process?

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    Alas no, as far as I am aware, in UK you read reports of some users having many thousands FEC and no issues with line as FEC are usually corrected at router end.

    For CRC’s, if I have more than say 4 a day, that is a worry, but others also have 1000’s and synch rate etc. still seems to work well, even the SNR can remain low.

    Older lines tend to be more troublesome as well as the Aluminum ones CCA or CCE (for Copper Clad Ethernet), has higher attenuation than pure copper cables. This results in a greater loss of data as packets have to be re-transmitted etc.

     

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    #24795
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    So DLM has done it’s thing and it’s settled roughly back to where it had before.

    The behaviour of the ASUS router is the same though in that it syncs a fair bit lower than the Sky one. The main difference is that the asus one gives an INP-REIN value of 1.  I can’t confirm at the moment what that value is for the Sky router currently as the UI doesn’t show it and need to speak with them.

    The sync values as of today for the ASUS router is 51mbps and the Sky router is 62mbps.  Strange.

     

     

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    The sync values as of today for the ASUS router is 51mbps and the Sky router is 62mbps.  Strange.

    Is it as you suggested the other week, trying a much older firmware release for DSL driver comparison, especially the INP-REIN value ?

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    #24927
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    Interesting development.  Openreach came back and moved my physical line from one of the two cables which run from the junction box to the cab which was heavily subscribed, to the other which was far less used and far less noisy.

     

    At this point my line came back up and synched far higher than it ever has before 72mbps down and 17.5 mbps up, as opposed to 65ish mbps which was my prior all time high, and 47mbps which was my current synch today, & never went above 8mbps up before. and other random issues I had were gone. Also, the synch is now far closer between the asus and the Sky router.

     

    The takeaway I have from this is that the Asus is far worse now at dealing with noisy lines than the cheapo Sky router is, given the disparity between the synch speed when I was on the noisier cable.  I would hope there is something Asus can do to improve their noise handling on the router as there is clearly some improvements they could make.

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    Great news that Openreach  has improved the connection,

    Out of interest, for the ASUS DSL-AX82U what is INP-REIN value now  ?

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    #24931
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    Still 1 on the downstream, although i’m told that might change over the next few nights as even though they didn’t do a dlm reset they said to expect dlm to kick in after it’s monitored a much better line.

    I have noticed that G.INP is now enabled on the upstream which it never used to be either.  Although this was enabled this morning after my line dropped (before their works) and remained on after they moved me to a different cable this afternoon, so it may end up turning off again.  I’d like to see it stay on though given the benefits, but it was always off until today.

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