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February 4, 2022 at 8:46 am #17537
So as we all know, the regulator Ofgem is allowing the energy price cap to increase from 1 April 2022 which is a worry for most of us.
So I thought I would check my Octopus account to see exactly what impact this had for myself.
So I am on there ‘Super Green Octopus 24m fixed may 2021 v1’ so in essence I am protected from fluctuations in the Energy market until the end of my 2 year contract. 2023 (mid) ‘I believe’
What is a little annoying is that this new £350 handout from the Government (good for some) to assist those who’s bills will increase, will for myself not be needed, as it is in essence a loan, repayable over 5 years, there is no option to opt-out .
I do not need the £350 as my tariff is fixed and the money could be more beneficial to other
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February 4, 2022 at 10:31 pm #17551The £350 is not as great as one might think.
You only get the £150 as council tax rebate (discount).
£200 is given as a ‘credit’ to your energy bill which is then recouped over the next 5 years at £40 per year.
This is recouped regardless of whether you benefitted from the £200 in the first place. For example from young people who become new homeowners or renters for the first time will pay the extra £40 per year from April 2023.
I deal with energy in a commercial property company I work for. This is essentially like a levy that you have to pay whether you benefitted or not. It is a scam by the UK government.
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February 5, 2022 at 5:44 am #17552Absolutely, new home owners will have no choice, such a missed opportunity by Boris and his team.
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February 5, 2022 at 3:46 pm #17553Hi all,
Also, I believe the £150 council tax rebate (discount) is only for people in bands A-D.
Also, according to ofgem, these are the new price cap figures (https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/check-if-energy-price-cap-affects-you) :-
Thanks
Kev
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February 5, 2022 at 3:53 pm #17555For myself, my Elec is fixed till next year, but my Gas was fixed till next year too but unfortunately they went under, not through any faulty of there own, the company they bought gas from pulled out and there was no way they could compete then so I’m now on variable rate and it’s difficult to know what to do for the best. At the moment, the price cap rate is far better than any fixed rate BUT assuming the rates go up to what they say in the above table and I suspect each area/region will vary, some of the fixes now are more than that.
Plus there is also a rumour of a further 20% increase in October so hard to know what’s best.
I kept my Elec/gas separate as it was cheaper than a dual fuel tariff and I prefer to have them run out around the same time so I can re-fix both and then forget about it for couple of years rather.
Going to see what happens this/next month and decide but most comparisons are saying they wont quote etc.
I believe industry is hoping in 2023, companies will become more competitive again and then will be about to get better rates but at the moment not, even the exit feels are going crazy, I seen some £11 – 200 pound exit fees… used to be £25-30 per fuel max…
Kev
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February 5, 2022 at 9:19 pm #17563Does look as though for the the next 12 months or so you will be left with little choice but to probable stay with whom you are with at the moment, I remember reading the other day, some utilities companies are not taking on any new customers at present, so times are indeed difficult
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February 5, 2022 at 10:31 pm #17564Yes, I staying where I am atm as the move hasn’t fully completed yet, still waiting for my credit to arrive with current provider.
Most comparison site are not providing quotes, at least not as many companies as there was so will see prob next month.
I’m not keen on provider I’m with atm but just sticking with it as cheaper prices atm and waiting for the “switch” to completely fully as it where from SoLR to this provider.
Kev
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February 8, 2022 at 12:46 pm #17646Hi all,
So what do people think? Is it worth moving to a fixed rate tariff to avoid future price rises? Even though they are a bit above the new cap coming in, if they increase again in Oct/April 2023, you could then benefit from the fixed price? Or should remain variable and just pay the new cap rates?
For myself, the new cap rate is cheaper than any fix I can find, not too much in it but still a difference. I could switch to a 2yr fix but if prices come down as lots of people predict in 2023 when companies will start competing again etc, I’d be stuck on a higher tariff and with a potentially larger exit fee (depending who I go with).
Fortunately, my Elec is fixed till 2023 so that’s good, its just my Gas that isn’t. Ironically, my elec provider is the one I’m considering moving my Gas to. Slightly kicking myself as I could of moved my gas to them and got a dual tariff and the rates were pretty good, just my existing provider beat them, they were a small company but had been good to date so decided to stay loyal to them and support them etc. so not sure how that will work if i moved to them as i guess maybe 2 different accounts due to not being dual fuel and one fixed till 2023 and the new one would be fixed till 2024
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Kev
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February 8, 2022 at 12:57 pm #17647Big question that is….
Can I ask what you are being charged currently for Gas and Electric in /kWh ?
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February 8, 2022 at 1:12 pm #17648Yes i know :)
My gas usage is fairly low, last year i used approx 5500 kwh and I was with a small company and the price per kwh was less than 3p, obviously a bigish jump to the current price cap since they went out of business. Will be another increase if i fix, currently seeing provider offering gas a just over 8p so decisions decisions
Kev
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February 8, 2022 at 1:57 pm #17649Is your home Gas heated ?
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February 8, 2022 at 3:54 pm #17650February 8, 2022 at 4:28 pm #17651That is unfortunate, A fixed Dual Fuel tariff before the price hike kicks in would have been perfect and would have been what I would have opted for (if I had the chance)
I tend to sometimes live life on the edge, but if I was in your situation and given where you live, as we only have a couple more months before the winter is a distant memory, you could stick with what you have currently and then re-evaluate in or around April/May, but prices will increase ……
But that is just my views
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February 8, 2022 at 6:28 pm #17669Hi,
Yes, fixed them separately due to cheaper separate than on duel, however now, I could fix my gas at 8.xx but that is more than the supposed cap at 7p but unsure… if another increase in Oct, then it might be better to fix now but again I’ve got potentially 6 months or so where it will be summer and low usage but will be a higher DD, albeit end up in credit etc.
I’m still waiting approx. £150 back from my SoLR and no news on that yet. Current provider says if we stay with them, it will appear in the account as a credit, if we move away, they will send us a cheque.
If I fix, I’d fix for 2 years but that means currently elec runs out 23 and then gas would be 24 so every year I’d be having to sort one or other out, whereas under my previous setup, even though separate, they ran out similar time and I always fixed for 2 years so meant only need to look at it every couple of years which was ideal.
I’m tempted to stay as is on existing tariff, but if they prices go up near Oct, then I guess the Fixed prices would all of risen too which means I’d of missed out again but also if they come down in mid – late 2023, I’d be paying over the odds and face a high exit fee potentially..
I’m tempted to contact current elec provider and see if they will allow me to add my Gas to existing tariff I have with them, which I could of had on duel fuel but I’m not expecting i can do that tbh.
Kev
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February 9, 2022 at 8:27 am #17690I’m tempted to contact current elec provider and see if they will allow me to add my Gas to existing tariff I have with them, which I could of had on duel fuel but I’m not expecting i can do that tbh.
Worth a Call
Current GAS per kWh is 4.07 and in April rising to 7.37 kWh (ish)
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