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April 27, 2025 at 8:04 pm #37330
I been thinking about it for a while, thing is I prefer the look for the uniflo gas meters (which look more like the traditional gas meter as shown below) as opposed to the small white ones. I’m not sure if they will fit them or not as I suspect OFTM uses a 3rd party installer and think most are installing the small er white ones which I’m not overly keen on tbh. Keep thinking about changing it on and off but also means I got to take a day off to get it done plus if I do, the batteries only last approx. 10 years and then it will need replacing etc.. could be more of a headache? but on plus side I’d get accurate bills (in theory). For me my gas meter is at front of house so if anyone needs to come read it they can as I don’t need to be home, unlike elec meter is inside but that’s smart so no real need for anyone to come look at it.
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April 28, 2025 at 8:32 am #37335Always pro’s and con’s with this sort of change.
We last year had a new Gas Smart Meter, the GS-60B the second generation SMETS2 compliant gas meter. Install only took an hour and well worth the inconvenience. (work from home) that day and you can still take manual readings.
Note: Owner or somebody over the age of 18 years is required (I believe) to be present when Gas Meter engineer visits, to ensure gas flow to boiler is correct and run a few safety checks after work has been completed etc.
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April 28, 2025 at 3:47 pm #37336Might even make your property more marketable if you ever decide to sell the property, if both Electric and Gas are Smart Meters etc.
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April 28, 2025 at 8:10 pm #37339Yes, plus side is bills are accurate and with the Ivie app, I can see usage and also on the Ivie bud if I decide to get it. Downside is potentially changing every approx. 10 years as that’s estimated how long the batter in it will last and although the battery I believe can be replaced, from what I’ve read most companies just replace the smart meter with another one (not sure that’s overly environmentally friendly) but I guess depends do the simply scrap/recycle the old one or take it away, fit a new battery and then re-issue to someone else? I’d imagine they wouldn’t re-issue immediately as would take some time for suppliers etc to update systems to reflect this one not in use at the address etc and ensure enough time goes by where no issues can be raised regarding that meter? I’ve seen some people on forums complaining about meter readings going back year or never received a bill etc.
I’m tempted but at same time – its no bother as is, I take a reading as and when and its reasonably accurate tbh and if my supplier over estimated and I submit a lower reading that they estimated previously, they have adjusted it, with no questions etc so its not causing me any real issues, would just be nice to have. There is also lot of people who don’t want smart meters so can never please anyone but I guess would make sense to get it done at some point, I’d just like to get the meter I’d prefer over them fitting anything but as mine is in one of those semi concealed outside boxes (see pic below, probably not exactly that one but its similar to that as I can only see the top, rest is in ground so cant’ say what it looks like overall), I believe some suppliers advise it wont fit etc but it already houses as traditional size non-smart gas meter so I believe it would fit? Probably just some small pipe adjustment needed maybe but likely the same for the small white one too as doubt existing pipes will fit the location of the white ones.
Kev
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April 29, 2025 at 7:08 am #37342Here (in Austria) meters (electricity and) have to be calibrated every 5 years.
So they have to be changed anyway within its battery life.Isn’t calibration needed in UK the same way?
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April 29, 2025 at 8:32 am #37345I believe the Gas box is called a ‘Semi-Concealed LPG Meter Box’ and will be suitable for the smaller Smart Meters, physically.
10 Years is such a long period of time.
In the UK, electricity meters are regulated to ensure accuracy and compliance with standards, but the calibration requirements differ from Austria. Meters used for billing purposes must meet specific accuracy and performance criteria under the Electricity Act 1989 and related regulations. However, there isn’t a fixed five-year calibration cycle like in Austria. Instead, meters are tested and certified for accuracy before installation, and independent testing can be requested if there are concerns about meter readings.
Gas meters are regulated under the Gas Act 1986 and related legislation. They must meet specific accuracy and performance standards before being approved for use. Unlike Austria’s fixed calibration cycle, the UK employs a system called In-Service Testing (IST). This is a national sampling scheme where meters are periodically tested to ensure they remain accurate throughout their lifespan.
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April 29, 2025 at 9:14 pm #37349Interesting to see the very different ways how such things are handled in other countries.
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April 30, 2025 at 8:40 am #37351Yes, does seem like slightly approaches based upon region and country, I just had a quick look (may not be 100% accurate) but thought the below was interesting.
Electric Meter Calibration Practices by Country
Austria
- Calibration Period:
4 to 20 years, with a 5-year extensionrecalibrated every 5 years (domestic)possible through statistical examination. - Structured system ensures consistent accuracy across different meter types.
Germany
- Governed by the Measurement and Verification Act (MessEG) and Measurement and Verification Ordinance (MessEV).
- New meters comply with the European Measuring Instruments Directive (MID).
- Calibration intervals can be extended by 5 years through a random sample procedure.
United Kingdom
- Meters are factory-calibrated and generally not recalibrated unless their accuracy is in question.
- Relies on specific codes of practice, such as for accuracy in settlement purposes.
- A less structured approach compared to Austria and Germany.
United States
- No nationwide standard; calibration frequency varies by state, utility company, and meter type.
- Common intervals range from 5 to 10 years, based on manufacturer recommendations or local regulations.
- A decentralized, flexible system.
This comparison highlights the diverse approaches to electric meter calibration across countries. Austria and Germany have more structured systems, while the UK and US offer greater flexibility.
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UK Sentinel. Reason: recalibrated every 5 years amendment added
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May 1, 2025 at 10:48 am #37359Can only say, that your result isn’t correct for Austria (household).
They must be recalibrated every 5 years and so they are changed with no extension and the period 4-20 is wrong for household.
Maybe it includes all kinds and industry is done differently upto 20 years with extension period.And we cant opt for a special meter, you have to take what the provider for your region will bring (there are many types possible even from one provider maybe more possibilities).
Thats making automatically reading (LED-interface) much more complicated for interested customers, as they may need different readers and you dont know what you will get before and may change in 5 years.You need to login in order to vote
May 1, 2025 at 12:45 pm #37360Thank you for letting me know and I will amend previous post to reflect this
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