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Asus RTAX86U and Sonos Hi, All has been going nto too bad with the new router, apart from when I tried to use Sonos the other day… I have a couple of Sonos devices…

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  • #13567
    Avatarkev2021
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    Thanks, Sonos are on 2.4ghz, sorry forgot to say.

    Sonos has been updated.

    I’ll try those things and get back to you and see how i get on, thanks for suggestions.

    Kev

    #15870
    Avatarkev2021
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    Hi all,

    So still no joy with sonos, I’ve tried various settings, sometimes it plays few songs then it drops off, comes back and skips to next song then can play a bit of that and then it skips to next one and so on.

    It’s connected to 2.4ghz wifi, these are all the first gen sonos speakers (Play 5 and One)  Unable to use with the new sonos app as says not compatible so at the moment they are effectively expensive ornaments. Even unable to stream a radio station so not even playing from my NAS.

    I’ve tried looking online and <insert router> and sonos but it seems loads of them have issues with Sonos speakers as I was tempted to get a different router.

    Any idea why there seems to be a lot o issues in general with sonos speakers?  Weirdly the BT homehub has no issues at all

    I now have a Nest thermostat so I’m a bit reluctant play with the WIFI settings much as I don’t want to knock it out and then be unable to control heating etc.

    I’ve not updated to the latest firmware released this month but it doesn’t say any changes made for sonos etc so I’m not expecting any change.

    Kev

    #15872
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    • The Skipper

    Is Airtime Fairness. disabled ?

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #15873
    Avatarkev2021
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    yes :)

    I’m now almost to the point of looking for an alternative… does Nest Audio for example allow streaming music from a nas, like sonos does or is it only online services?

    Kev

    #15875
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    • The Skipper

    I am sure you have tried this already – but over at the Sonos community, this seemed to work for one person (unsure if your Sonos is same version)

     

    • I reset the Sonos One.
    • I reset the Sonos App on my iPhone
    • I moved the Sonos One right next to the ASUS router and connected to the router.
    • I had the router app open and could see Sonos was now connected. It still took a few tries to get it to add to my network even though it showed it was online on the router app.
    • I reviewed the above suggestions and also more google searching and realized that I had indeed skipped the step that ratty (above) had stated – Settings/System/Network/Wireless Setup (prior to me posting this question, I had the speaker working after many attempts and it stopped when I just unplugged) – NOTE – I COULD NOT GET TO THIS STEP UNTIL I MOVED THE SPEAKER DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE ROUTER.
    • Once I did that, I unplugged from the router and power and moved the speaker where I wanted it. Plugged it back in and it works.
    • Previous to the above, I followed controlav’s link and turned off the auto-priority/QoS settings in the router – I DON’T KNOW IF THIS HELPED OR IF I CAN TURN IT BACK ON?
    • The Sonos One is connected to my 5G network and is now working including Google Assistant.

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #15880
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    • The Skipper

    If your wifi settings are the same as previous screen dumps, we can try tinkering a little

    BTW – Did the app work when BT homehub was in use ?

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #15889
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    HI,

    Yes, Sonos worked fine using BThomehub, it’s only been a issue since moving to the RT-AX86U.  I did reset the Sonos as I had to link it up to my new SSID etc as with the Asus, I’ve got a main network and a guest/iot network (for what of better description) so I reset the Sonos and joined it to the new SSID (which was fun) as initially it couldn’t be detected but after turning some of the features off on the 86U, it was then finally able to be seen and it joined no problem.  My devices have also been moved to the new SSID so that’s all ok.

    I believe they probably are, I did try messing a while back with some other features turning off etc but they made n difference so i re-enabled them.

    As said, big concern now is the Nest to ensure I don’t loose that connection.  I’ve just had a issue with my VOIP phone – weirdly it said it failed to register with provider so the handset is registered to the base and the base is physically cabled to the router (right next to it) but after looking online, i changed some settings on the VOIP base unit and now its registered with the provider, not sure why original settings stopped working as its been working for 2 months flawlessly and no changes have been made i.e. no router updates, no firmware on devices etc so bit odd.  Thankfully it is now all back online again but Sonos is still a issue, I’m considering getting a apple home pod mini to replace one of the Sonos and see if any better.  As long as I can play online radio (for free) and also play my music from my NAS box for free (don’t want to sign up to a music service) then i might go that route as it seems Sonos no longer want to support the older Sonos products, which was uproar over at the time so considering there cost (I paid £300 for the Play 5) I’m not planning to update to the newer versions so might look for something else and may sell my Play 5’s and One unless they miraculously start working but considering everything is moving on, I’m not even sure they can connect to 5ghz, let alone wifi 6, possibly only 2.4ghz.

    Kev

    #15890
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    • The Skipper

    Is it worth you jumping to ASUSWRT-Merlin ?

    https://www.asuswrt-merlin.net/

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #15891
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    Hiya, hmm not sure, thing with 3rd party versions is you don’t know what info is being sent back to them (if any) or if there is a backdoor built in that would allow them access to my router/network etc so I’d sooner stick with stock firmware especially as it’s my main network so I do everything through it.

    Kev

    #15892
    GrisuGrisu
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    It is open source, you can trust Merlin versions much more than Asus themselves.

    #15893
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    • The Skipper

    I use Asuswrt-merlin on my RT-AC86U, very good and Rmerlin  (Eric) builds I trust. Which is very rare for myself

    Understood, are you happy to tweak your wifi settings or is it time to invest in new kit to replace your existing Sonos units ?

     

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #15899
    Avatarkev2021
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    What do you think is left to change? lol

    I’m not sure, its a idea just to get something that works but if sonos can be made to work, great.

    Kev

    #15901
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    • The Skipper

    Tweaking Wifi is worth a try, especially as those Sonos units are not cheap to replace

    Change Sonos back to 2.4GHz and make sure wifi SSID is simple (no special characters or spaces / underlines etc.)

    Wifi Setting:

    • Enable Smart Connect – Off
    • 802.11ax / Wi-Fi 6 mode – Disable
    • Target Wake Time – Off
    • Channel bandwidth – 20 MHZ
    • Control Channel – 3
    • Extension Channel – lower
    • Roaming Assistant – Disabled
    • Enable IGMP Snooping – Disable
    • Modulation Scheme – Upto MCS 9
    • Explicit Beamforming – Off
    • Universal Beamforming – On
    • Airtime Fairness – Off

     

    Enjoy ;-)

     

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

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