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  • #5306
    UK SentinelUK Sentinel
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    @Mrk26 New Router Dilema Topic

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #5297
    Mrk26
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    When looking at a router, think of it like a shopping list, What does it need to do:

    • Gaming
    • Parental Controls (Internet access time restriction/content filtering)
    • IPTV
    • Combined Modem/Router or two separate devices
    • Any VPN requirements
    • Strong Wifi (Maybe wifi Mesh) if large house
    • Special requirements from ISP
    • Future proofing (IPv6 – Firmware updates – WiFi 6 (802.11ax))
    • Budget ;-)

    Etc etc.

    • yes with my soon we playing online
    • not necessary however I like option in rt-ac68u where you can block access to internet for individual devices
    • doesn’t really matter as long it got strong wi-fi
    • no special vpn requirements
    • strong wifi, preferable without mesh, on rt-ac68u 2.4 is very strong in my house 5g slightly weaker dsl-ac88u has stronger 5g (maybe it just a matter of tweaking?)
    • no special requirements from ISP (EE) as long it works for me
    • I’m happy with spending between 200-250GBP on decent equipment.
    #5299
    UK SentinelUK Sentinel
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    Take a look at the  asus rt-ac5300 as a unit to run with your modem, wifi on this device is excellent or the ASUS RT-AC86U, both these models support ASUSWRT-Merlin which is a worthwhile firmware upgrade if you are technically curious.

    Also. as you have the RT-AC68U, set this up as AiMesh node, so you can extend wifi range etc.

    Fritz!Box 7590 is great all in one unit as is the 7580 but prices tend to be £260 +

    Others are available like TP-Link VR2800 which is a great budget modem/router, but firmware updates can be not often, but does have Broadcom DSL modem (same as DSL-AC88U ;-)

     

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #5300
    Mrk26
    Participant

    I was looking for fritzbox 7590 and actually prices on amazon are below 200 pounds which is not bad, I only worry about wifi on it as I read reviews that is not best due to internal antennas.

    #5301
    UK SentinelUK Sentinel
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    I was looking for fritzbox 7590 and actually prices on amazon are below 200 pounds which is not bad, I only worry about wifi on it as I read reviews that is not best due to internal antennas.

    Try before you buy maybe with the Fritz!Box, I am sure if you purchase via Amazon, they will accept returns if wifi falls short ;-)

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #5302
    Mrk26
    Participant

    That’s the trouble, I don’t want to end up with worse wifi signal than I have now…

    Was also consider routers with new ax standard, changing pcie card in pc won’t be a problem 😉

    #5303
    UK SentinelUK Sentinel
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    That’s the trouble, I don’t want to end up with worse wifi signal than I have now… Was also consider routers with new ax standard, changing pcie card in pc won’t be a problem 😉

    May have to increase budget ;-) ASUS wifi 6 routers seem to be problematic and only RT-AX88U supported by RMerlin

    https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/wi-fi-6-routers-the-best-wi-fi-6-routers-you-can-buy-in-2019

    Netgear AX units tend to be a little cheaper, but firmware is more basic

    https://www.tech21century.com/best-wifi6-802-11ax-routers/

    I am going to create a new Topic and place these posts within it ;-)

    Edit: Topic now moved

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by UK SentinelUK Sentinel.

    In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom (J.G.Ballard).

    #5310
    Mrk26
    Participant

    Asus is in good price at the moment, but if there is an issues with it I’m not fancy 😛

    #5318
    Mrk26
    Participant

    According to these articles, asus is better option if I decide to go for ax router. 🤔

    How good is support from asus for ax version? 🤔

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Mrk26.
    #5319
    GrisuGrisu
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    Right now it seems to be too early to change for WiFi6. Prices are high and you are beta user for the next year for all of them! Some essential features and benefits of WiFi6 will never arrive even with firmware updates on todays routers (yes they are certified, but only for basic functionality and non public Asus internal firmware). You can hope some things will come with future updates but I dont expect them to come, they want to sell new exlusive features in the next years too included only on their newer routers.

    RT-AC68U is still a very reliable router if you dont have Gb ISP connection.

    BTW: With my 7590 I support our neighbours house 35-40m distance with 2,4GHz-backhaul and second 7590 in Mesh-mode over there, connected with 150-200Mb/s, enough for everyday internet access.

    Modem-router combo may safe some power over the years, about 130Wh a year (~25€ a year on your bill)! On the other side you might be more flexible with single components.

     

    If you only need a X-mas present and happy with your 68U now take an RT-AC86U.

    They all will give you similar coverage, dont think it will be better, maybe faster nearby in 5GHz band. I am happy that I changed to 7590 as Asus made only troubles here (DSL-AC68U, RT-AC68U and 86U). Have to say that I used them in Aimesh mode, maybe with single router it would have been better.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by GrisuGrisu.
    #5322
    Mrk26
    Participant

    Thanks @Grisu,

    I still thinking about fritzbox, I live in 3 bedroom house, but router have on his way only ceiling and maybe two walls, shortest way I will say 5-6 meters as router is downstairs and my bedroom and my son is on another end of the house upstairs.

    Rt-ac68u getting 866Mb to my pc, similar with other pc. I also need strong wi fi so I can watch and process content from my personal cloud connected to router on one of the lan ports, transfer to cloud from pc good 60MB plus when copy pictures or videos from camera.

    I got only 78Mb broadband, and even that in same time is connected cloud, 5 mobile phones, three smart tvs, laptop, and two pcs I still getting quiet low ping while playing games without any issues. So before I go for next router  I need to do some research…

    #5324
    GrisuGrisu
    Participant

    If you could run a CAT5e or better upstairs you should think about mesh solution. Works very well with AVM. You dont need a second 7590, a cheap 7530 would be fine there or a mesh repeater.

    No need for my setup with 4x 7590 one in each floor (and neighbour), got them cheap used for 130-140€ each.

    While still lot of problems with Asus Aimesh reported and you wont get guest SSID on nodes with them.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by GrisuGrisu.
    #5332
    Mrk26
    Participant

    Does 7590 allow for snr tweak on vdsl, asking just in case I will need stabilise my line in future.

    Also read about new ax modems and must agree, these are no go at the moment…..

    #5334
    Mrk26
    Participant

    If you could run a CAT5e or better upstairs you should think about mesh solution. Works very well with AVM. You dont need a second 7590, a cheap 7530 would be fine there or a mesh repeater.

    No need for my setup with 4x 7590 one in each floor (and neighbour), got them cheap used for 130-140€ each.

    While still lot of problems with Asus Aimesh reported and you wont get guest SSID on nodes with them.

    Don’t really want to run extra cables, just thinking loud in general and wondering if 7590 will be at least as good as rt-ac68u with wifi, if will provide stable vdsl connection on the top of that then I may start sleeping properly 😁

    #5340
    XRW
    Participant

    i usually hear good things about Fritz!Box.. though personally never used it because it’s not sold here

    most stable i have found is modems provided by ISP combined with good routers in bridge  :) ( I learned it hard way after purchasing 5+ all in one router+modem combo which never worked smooth for me )

    when i had VDSL i used to have Huawei HG630A … which was most stable ..with any of my routers but it don’t support G.Fast …… also there was issue with little  bufferbloat ( maybe because LAN switch was 100Mbps )

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by XRW.
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