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ah, google told me dec 2027 lol…. Going to keep looking but due to price, might move to tplink need to find out bit more about them first.
Kev
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Not too sure on replacement basically want something that has same options as RT-AX86U but with WIFI 6/7 support ideally. Looked at the RT-BE96U – didn’t look bad, different design to the RT-AX86U but had VPN and other options so looked possible, unless I saw the price – over ÂŁ500! considering I need to buy 2 – that’s a bit steep, although the RT-AX86S id likely leave a while as I don’t have nothing running when not come, only IoT devices like thermostat etc so very little info obtained if it was to be accessed some how. Nas boxed, pc etc turned off.
Kev
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Dam, thought I had another year before it reached EOL :( Interestingly the RT-AX86S isn’t showing on the list? which ironically is the lower spec’d version?
Any issues running router into 2027 or should I really change it to something else?
Kev
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Yes, I was thinking more keep the OS drive separate so if there was a issue such as a failed upgrade or something, I could wipe it, re-install then just add back the VMs from the other drives was my thinking.
Kev
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Thanks, Yes, i believe VMWare is still popular in business but they have the advantange of more cash and can write some of the tax off etc. HPE Microservers used to be a good relatively cheap way to get a home server setup with VMWare but now seeing the price of the servers has goe up significantly and now vmware stopped the free version, many people have looked at alternatives and I’m thinking this is the better way to go now than sticking with HPE Microserver as when a new version of vmware comes out, it will likely be unsupported on microserver gen 11 and so the circle begins whereas with proxmox VE, its free, and it seems to be more of a long term solution in terms up probably just updating proxmox ve to latest version on existing hardware to get support for a new windows version. The gen 10 for example doesn’t have TMP2.0 and the version I have of esxi doesn’t support win11. I believe proxmox doesn’t have these limitations.
The price isn’t overly cheap for the minisforum ms-02 ultra or the ms-03 but I believe I would get longer use out of it before I get constrained by limitations both in terms of ram and also in terms of VM OS I can created. I believe my existing Esxi doesn’t support win 11 and also not the server 2025, i think 2022 is last server OS its supports. Whereas minisforum hardware wouldn’t restrict the use, if anything just software upgrade of proxmox and I’m good to go. Also like you said, no hardware raid needed. Albeit it only supports I think 3 NVMe’s. I guess I’d have to setup the Proxom VE on 1 NVME and setup my VMs on the other NVMEs and have them mirrors to have some redundancy due to drive failure.
I also believe Proxe VE has a backup software but I’ve not looked into it fully to see if that is free or paid. I think I read the free version just backs up whole VM whereas paid does incremental or maybe differential so its a smaller backup after first main backup. I have a NAS I could potentially back up to if it allows that and is compatible etc but that too has a space limit so I don’t want to do full backups every week etc as would take too long to backup multiple VMs and would use a high amount of space.
Definitely considering it but at the moment its too price as 256GB of ram I believe is over ÂŁ1k, the ms-02 I think is just over ÂŁ1k and then I got the NVMe’s of which I’d have to have min 2 x 2TB NVMe’s and prob 1TB NVMe for Proxmox VE to allow for upgrades, any addons I later find, maybe even storing ISO files so can deploy a VM from the IOS when creating new etc. so I’m prob looking at ÂŁ3-4k all in as a guess?
They are selling the ms02-ultra with Intel Core Ultra 9 285HX (192GB ECC + 2TB SSD): ÂŁ2,679 as an example so not even 256Gb ram.
Kev
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Was thinking of the RT‑BE86U but no doubt will be a newer version out before end of next year so will see.
Main issue is really the cost, spending nearly ÂŁ300 and it lasts approx. 5 years is a bit costly and like now it can be had for around ÂŁ200 but possibly only 2 or 3 years life left so will see. The TPlink ones are cheaper so will have to see at the time, whether I go ASUS router or tplink or alternative.
Thanks
Kev
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Thanks, I head ready you need to disable a setting on your router but I did that and still no change. Maybe if I change my routers, I’ll setup a different SSID/pswd, I plan to split the 2.4 and 5ghz bands, at the moment its the same and it connects on either 2.4 or 5ghz but I think that causes some devices to keep jumping between the 2.
My guest WIFI I’ll keep the same, I got I think most if not all my IoT devices on that. I need to check them before I make the changes or I’d setup a 2nd guest network with the old existing SSID/pswd in hopes it reconencts.
Thanks.
Kev
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Thanks all. Would use my existing router in AI Mesh but I don’t have a location to place it apart from on the floor and its likely to get damaged.
I presume the BE routers will be the same 5 year lifecycle?
I not had any issues with my existing Asus routers so I’m happy to buy the same make, its just I tend to leave the firmware updates for a while as always seems to be issues reported and now I think I’m well over a year behind.
Which models to the VLans? I’ve also noticed the price is a fair bit more for Asus, the BE86 was nearer ÂŁ300 when it came out but is now nearer ÂŁ200 but that’s likely due to it being 3 years old and only 3 years left in lifecycle so I’d sooner but a newer model which I suspect there will be one before Dec 2027 when mine are due to go EOL I beleive.
Also, Am I correct in thinking if I get a new router, if I set up the same SSID and pswd, the devices will auto connect to it?
Reason I ask is I have set the same SSID on my AX86U at parents place and the same SSID on my AX86s however when I go between the 2 properties, I have to manually select the WIFI on my devices, it wont auto connect almost like it knows its different some how? Once I connect I can go and come back to that property and it auto connects but when I go to the other I have to select it to connect the first time then its ok until I go back to other property I have to select it again…
It seems to some how know its different and won’t connect.
When I had BT routers, I setup the same SSID and pswd and that just connected at both properties, no questions asked.
I don’t want to have to re-set up smart plugs and nest etc to reconnect to my WIFI again, I’m hoping it auto connects.
Kev
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Hi,
Thanks. I thought about that but unfortunately I don’t have anywhere that is midway between the 2 locations to put the Router apart from on the floor which isn’t ideal. Hence I thought of the ranger extender as I can plug it into a socket and leave it plugged in.
I suspect the RT-AX86s and U are probably EOL soon, I believe maybe end of 2027 from a quick look online?
Not sure what to go with next router wise, the BE86U looks similar and price has dropped but I noticed it came out in 2024 so means already 2 years into its life cycle so maybe only another 2 or 3 years before that is EOL.
Wondering whether to go with TPLink BE range instead as the Asus ones have been ok, albeit quiet a few bugs etc people have found and I’m not too sure about using AIMesh as I seem to see a lot of reports of when routers updated, the AIMesh has issues with it dropping etc so hence thought just a standard extender might be better?
Thanks
Kev
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Thanks, looks good, but might be a bit overkill for me ATM as I’ve got a Henry hoover ATM that does the job fine for normal vacuuming, it was just to get a little hand held one for the odd little thing as opposed to getting the henry hoover out each time.
Definitely a option to consider in the future though.
Thanks
Kev
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yes, very odd as nothing has changed… maybe it will fix itself at some point…
Kev
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Can’t test PC with hotspot as it has no wifi as its a desktop PC, not laptop.
Will log out of my profile today and then check tomorrow when I’m back on to see if it makes any difference as I tend to remember my login which it does for a certain time then it reverts to needing to login again :)
Might try creating a new profile and see after the above out of curiosity.
I’m assuming nothing obvious shows on any logs when I login?
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