RT-AC86U 384.16 Hi, I updated to the latest Merlin firmware this morning (about 9 am) and since doing so my NE CRC count has gone up to 326598 over 5 hours. ...

[Bully]

UK Sentinel wrote:

The G.fast Faceplate sounds interesting, as it for G.fast and VDSL and has a newer REIN filter, seems only MK1 had no REIN Filter, MK2 had the First REIN filter and by the MK3 they changed the standard REIN filter, MK4 also has a REIN filter and is the latest faceplate offered by BT until G.fast install is required when the G.fast faceplate is used with NTE5C Master Socket. I think that correct ?

 

yeah I looked at the g.fast faceplate but it was rather expensive.

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[Mrk26]

UK Sentinel wrote:

The G.fast Faceplate sounds interesting, as it for G.fast and VDSL and has a newer REIN filter, seems only MK1 had no REIN Filter, MK2 had the First REIN filter and by the MK3 they changed the standard REIN filter, MK4 also has a REIN filter and is the latest faceplate offered by BT until G.fast install is required when the G.fast faceplate is used with NTE5C Master Socket. I think that correct ?

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[UK Sentinel]

£30 for new G.fast faceplate./Master Socket, yes a luxury rather than a necessity  

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[Bully]

Not looking too good –

———————- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) ———–
Running Mode            :      17A       State                : SHOWTIME
DS Actual Rate          : 30000000 bps   US Actual Rate       : 10555000 bps
DS Attainable Rate      : 44330160 bps   US Attainable Rate   : 10724607 bps
DS Path Mode            :  Interleave    US Path Mode         :        Fast
DS Interleave Depth     :     1549       US Interleave Depth  :        1
NE Current Attenuation  :       20 dB    Cur SNR Margin       :        8  dB
DS actual PSD           :     6. 5 dB    US actual PSD        :    13. 0  dB
NE CRC Count            :        1       FE CRC Count         :     4080
NE ES Count             :        1       FE  ES Count         :     2658
Xdsl Reset Times        :        0       Xdsl Link  Times     :        1
ITU Version[0]          : fe004452       ITU Version[1]       : 41590000
VDSL Firmware Version   : 05-07-09-0F-01-07   [with Vectoring support]
Power Management Mode   : DSL_G997_PMS_L0
Test Mode               : DISABLE
——————————– ATU-C Info ———————————
Far Current Attenuation :       27 dB    Far SNR Margin       :        6  dB
CO ITU Version[0]       : b5004946       CO ITU Version[1]    : 544ed086
DSLAM CHIPSET VENDOR    : < IFTN >
> vdsl status more

———————- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) ———–
Near End        Far End    Note
Trellis      :      1               1
Bitswap      :      1               1
ReTxEnable   :      0               0
VirtualNoise :      0               0
20BitSupport :      0               0
LatencyPath  :      0               0
LOS          :      0               0
LOF          :      0               0
LPR          :      0               0
LOM          :      0               0
SosSuccess   :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
FECS         :   170812            54526 (seconds)
ES           :      1            2658 (seconds)
SES          :      0              31 (seconds)
LOSS         :      0               1 (seconds)
UAS          :     34            88462 (seconds)
HECError     :      0               0
CRC          :      1            4080
RsCorrection :      0               0
INP          :      0              45 (symbols)
InterleaveDelay :      0            1600 (1/100 ms)
NFEC         :    255              55
RFEC         :     16              16
LSYMB        :   2832            10664
INTLVBLOCK   :    255              55
AELEM        :      0            —-
> vdsl status counts

[ Counters: Showtime ]
Near End        Far End    Note
ElapsedTime  :   40328            40328 (seconds)
CRC          :      1            4080
FEC          :   170812            54526
HEC          :      0               0
CRC_P        :      0               0
CRCP_P       :      0               0
CVP_P        :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
ES           :      1            2658
SES          :      0              31
LOSS         :      0               1
UAS          :      0               0
LOFS         :      0               0
[ Counters: 15Min ]
Near End        Far End    Note
ElapsedTime  :    363             363 (seconds)
CRC          :      0               0
FEC          :    315               0
HEC          :      0               0
CRC_P        :      0               0
CRCP_P       :      0               0
CVP_P        :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
ES           :      0               0
SES          :      0               0
LOSS         :      0               0
UAS          :      0               0
LOFS         :      0               0
[ Counters: 1DAY ]
Near End        Far End    Note
ElapsedTime  :   46263            46263 (seconds)
CRC          :      1            4080
FEC          :   170812            54526
HEC          :      0               0
CRC_P        :      0               0
CRCP_P       :      0               0
CVP_P        :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
ES           :      1            2658
SES          :      0              31
LOSS         :      0               1
UAS          :      0               0
LOFS         :      0               0

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[Mrk26]

Yeah, and personally I don’t think the G.fast one will make much difference on vdsl. Very similar design to Mk4, only higher frequency filter which is not used on vdsl.

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[UK Sentinel]

Mrk26 wrote:

Yeah, and personally I don’t think the G.fast one will make much difference on vdsl. Very similar design to Mk4, only higher frequency filter which is not used on vdsl.

I think so to, I might purchase the MK4 , just in the name of science or ask @Bully to post one to me as he has several by now

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[Mrk26]

Bully wrote:

Not looking too good

I wonder if your telephone extension is not shorted somewhere. If you can do quiet line test with everything plugged in as it is now but do test on telephone extension.

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[UK Sentinel]

I just ordered a new BT Openreach NTE5C MK2 + MK4 Faceplate to replace my existing MK2 Faceplate and NTE5A Master socket,

Looking forward to see if DSL stats change / improve ?

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[Mrk26]

I didn’t know you have issues with your line? I though last time problem was solved. Hope you order one with clear idc connectors, these colour ones (blue and red) was faulty, apparently.

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[UK Sentinel]

Mrk26 wrote:

I didn’t know you have issues with your line? I though last time problem was solved. Hope you order one with clear idc connectors, these colour ones (blue and red) was faulty, apparently.

My line is fine, just thought I would try a newer one, in the name of science and improved stats 

I will start a new thread with my results , save clogging this one .

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[Bully]

Nearly 24 hrs –

vdsl status

———————- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) ———–
Running Mode            :      17A       State                : SHOWTIME
DS Actual Rate          : 30000000 bps   US Actual Rate       : 10555000 bps
DS Attainable Rate      : 43852080 bps   US Attainable Rate   : 10638504 bps
DS Path Mode            :  Interleave    US Path Mode         :        Fast
DS Interleave Depth     :     1549       US Interleave Depth  :        1
NE Current Attenuation  :       20 dB    Cur SNR Margin       :        8  dB
DS actual PSD           :     6. 5 dB    US actual PSD        :    12. 9  dB
NE CRC Count            :        1       FE CRC Count         :     4083
NE ES Count             :        1       FE  ES Count         :     2661
Xdsl Reset Times        :        0       Xdsl Link  Times     :        1
ITU Version[0]          : fe004452       ITU Version[1]       : 41590000
VDSL Firmware Version   : 05-07-09-0F-01-07   [with Vectoring support]
Power Management Mode   : DSL_G997_PMS_L0
Test Mode               : DISABLE
——————————– ATU-C Info ———————————
Far Current Attenuation :       27 dB    Far SNR Margin       :        6  dB
CO ITU Version[0]       : b5004946       CO ITU Version[1]    : 544ed086
DSLAM CHIPSET VENDOR    : < IFTN >
> vdsl status more

———————- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) ———–
Near End        Far End    Note
Trellis      :      1               1
Bitswap      :      1               1
ReTxEnable   :      0               0
VirtualNoise :      0               0
20BitSupport :      0               0
LatencyPath  :      0               0
LOS          :      0               0
LOF          :      0               0
LPR          :      0               0
LOM          :      0               0
SosSuccess   :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
FECS         :   714015            54530 (seconds)
ES           :      1            2661 (seconds)
SES          :      0              31 (seconds)
LOSS         :      0               1 (seconds)
UAS          :     34            88462 (seconds)
HECError     :      0               0
CRC          :      1            4083
RsCorrection :      0               0
INP          :      0              45 (symbols)
InterleaveDelay :      0            1600 (1/100 ms)
NFEC         :    255              55
RFEC         :     16              16
LSYMB        :   2832            10664
INTLVBLOCK   :    255              55
AELEM        :      0            —-
> vdsl status counts

[ Counters: Showtime ]
Near End        Far End    Note
ElapsedTime  :   72948            72948 (seconds)
CRC          :      1            4083
FEC          :   714015            54530
HEC          :      0               0
CRC_P        :      0               0
CRCP_P       :      0               0
CVP_P        :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
ES           :      1            2661
SES          :      0              31
LOSS         :      0               1
UAS          :      0               0
LOFS         :      0               0
[ Counters: 15Min ]
Near End        Far End    Note
ElapsedTime  :    849             849 (seconds)
CRC          :      0               0
FEC          :   111226               0
HEC          :      0               0
CRC_P        :      0               0
CRCP_P       :      0               0
CVP_P        :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
ES           :      0               0
SES          :      0               0
LOSS         :      0               0
UAS          :      0               0
LOFS         :      0               0
[ Counters: 1DAY ]
Near End        Far End    Note
ElapsedTime  :   83649            83649 (seconds)
CRC          :      1            4083
FEC          :   714015            54530
HEC          :      0               0
CRC_P        :      0               0
CRCP_P       :      0               0
CVP_P        :      0               0
NCD          :      0               0
LCD          :      0               0
ES           :      1            2661
SES          :      0              31
LOSS         :      0               1
UAS          :      0               0
LOFS         :      0               0

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[Mrk26]

That is like nine times worse than previous day stats. You clearly must have issue with extension line. If you want (it’s absolutely safe once you take off filtered faceplate) lift up extension idc clamp and remove telephone extension cables and test for 24h without. If you want go further I will check with multimeter if they are not shorted somewhere. How looks like your extension socket? If you have issues with telephone extension that is probably what killed previous faceplate.

 

Edit.

Only last 15 mins you had more FEC errors than previous 24h…

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[UK Sentinel]

Yes, something not running correctly, way to many errors.

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[Mrk26]

Trouble is that @Bully proved yesterday with previous stats on test socket that his line is really not bad. And I’m sure that either telephone socket is faulty or telephone? It’s easy to test.

Either test for 24h with telephone unplugged (extension connected in master socket), and test for 24h with extension line disconnected from master socket.

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[UK Sentinel]

Absolutely,

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